The dark side of the solar power boom: Power Shock, Part 2 | 7.30


About two million Australian homes and businesses have installed rooftop solar.
The money flowing into renewables, some of its from government subsidies, has meant a rush of new players in the market.
But advocates warn the industry is effectively unregulated and some customers are very unhappy.

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  • Not every climate has the amount of sunshine hours that Australia has. So what about those of us in low sunshine climates and cold climates? Doesn’t work everywhere. I think we need to keep looking at other alternatives or improve the efficiencies of existing energy sources.

  • Buddy I show u how to always generate power

  • Aussieland doesn't even consider nuclear power generation. I think it's outright banned by their environmental laws.
    That Alex Smith has been completely scammed by those crap inverters. 3 REPLACEMENTS!

  • All energy: renewable, nuclear and fossil fuels are subsidised by the tax payer. All require destructive mining to make and toxic manufacturing to produce. All of them are unsustainable according to the second law of thermodynamics. We need an energy decent but instead humanity has put its foot on the accelerator with eco capitalism.

  • People equipped with solar powerstations and electric cars may get transport for free. It's not acceptable neither for oil companies nor for governments. "Where are our benefits and taxes???"

  • Typical Australia pull-out a video like this ! What kind of future do the government wants ?

  • The dark side of solar is it doesn't work in the dark 🙂

  • free light source = magnet

  • Governements have always a stake at the grid. The grid needs long time running investments and the new technology go's so fast, that the investments in the grid are not payed off, whyle more people disconect them selves from the grid. So the more solar energy, the more people have to pay for there electricety from the grid. And that are not the richest people, that are the ones who can't pay a solar system. So, they are f.ckt twice. I have solar panels, more then 10 years now, it's sunny but they are covert in dust that sticks, because of the dusty wind and the wet mornings neer the sea. But they give still what they have to give If the autorety's in the country where I was living where less dishonest , I did'nt need solar panels. My electricety bill was filled with taxes for the communety, the governement on the electricety itself, on he grid to bring it to my home etc. And all that counted togheter made a number of money over what I had to pay taxes again. So, they put a tax on each item and a tax after that on the global amaunt. Taxes on taxes. I like to pay for what I get, but not 25 % taxes on a number of items that includes already 25% taxes . As If you buy a car and have to pay taxes on the tires,the engine, the seats, the boddy, the gearbox etc. And that counted to getter 25% taxes on the total som. Governements complain always on people who try to find loopholes in the system…. Run a country in a responsable way as a good loving , smart father and most people will behave as responsable, loving childeren. They wanne get rit of the feul consuming cars… in most country's one drives on taxes more then on the price of the feul itself. How they gonne fill tthat hole in ther budgets. And what are they gonne do with the rising tax money for the climat change ? Clean the air with enormous filters ? Pay people to stand on the beaches and tell the seas to stay where they are ?

  • Only got a few minutes in to this video. "He invested 40,000 dollars to eliminate future bills". Add on maintenance and repairs, so let's say 50,000 dollars over what, 25 years? How much would 25 years of utility bills cost? Oh, and how much interest is lost on the capital outlay of 40,000 dollars? The maths don't add up.

  • what do you do for power at night? I suspect they are still connected to the power grid and therefore the power company must maintain generating capacity. The slightly increased CO2 levels have a huge benefit to plants and reduce the water requirement.

  • This is obviously a "good thing", but what is ROI, and maintenance cost. Big industry is not going to give up easily. Solar companies going out of business makes conversion useless as well.

  • Taxpayer funded money transfers. I.e. subsidies.

  • Even with a company like Zen your warranty is very questionable

  • I do note that they are called 'government subsidies', that is incorrect, they are 'taxpayer paid' subsidies, governments create no wealth themselves, they just take it from other people.

  • the viability of many of these system is based on the idea of 'net billing', i.e. you generate enough to make your meter turn backwards and use that to either offset nights and rainy days or during parts of the year when solar output falls off. The real question is, 'what's in it for the power company?'. You ask them to back you up all the time, meaning they have to keep generating capacity on line and ready to serve at a moments notice whenever the sun goes behind a cloud or your inverter fails, are you paying for this? I expect to see a lot of utilities failing as this becomes very large in the market, I see a lot of them pulling the plug on net billing forcing folks to install equally expensive battery systems to store and ease out interruptions. A lot of folks like playing with these systems and do more than enough homework to know how to deal with them both technically and in terms of regulation, but a larger number don't and don't want to learn. What I do see is significantally high power costs and lower reliability.

  • I'll bet that most of those panels being scraped still put out a charge I have 2 panels that are 30 years old and they still put out a charge ….not as much as new but still a charge……I highly recommend solar but you do need to do your homework especially on batteries….I live totally off grid and I love my solar

  • the guy at 5:00 – there is no tree shade on his panels
    also a BIG issue is the transfer wires MUST be correct gauge to transfer the full electric. many cheap solar companies will skimp on this and you wont get your full output.

  • You can't beat the cheap price of coal, no matter what. God provided it. Thank God.

  • I've been off grid for over 25 years and have not had any problems. You must be buying Chinese panels. If your inverters are crap then stop buying Chinese crap. Outback inverters are the best. Forklift batteries are your fuel tank. I have 50 year old pannels that still produce power. Try buying made in the USA if you want quality.

  • Night = dark side of the Earth's rotation.
    My brother asked why "We are always fighting?"

    Said I, " I don't seek you out, I do not desire contact with you. I don't like you. Fighting?"
    "It's your fault, leave me alone, I leave you alone, no contact = no nothing

  • We here in the US subsidized the oil industry by fighting a war in Iraq and Afghanistan, it cost us about 2 Trillion. How much did your solar subsidy cost?

  • Re organizing the power system in Australia sounds like it should get a little priority soon. (Perhaps PowerLedger's success will help push it in the right direction).

  • Where is that factory that dismantles old solar panels?? I can envisage thousands of rural property owners and hobbyists taking those (probably still working) panels off their hands.

  • $40000 = 6 year pay back i didn't see any other people living there? My house has myself my wife, my youngest son and his wife and 2 year old lives with us and my middle son lives in our flat under the house with his wife and two kids under 2. Thats 9 people! Our bill is average $600. The only reason i haven't got solar is i don 't trust the clowns on the roof of my house! Don't forget you have to take those batteries to the tip in 7 or 8 years thats if you do well!!

  • Pathetic documentary, really said very little about the problem. Shows recycle guy sledgehammering off the aluminum but shows nothing or what happens to the panel which is the real problem, not the aluminum! It is mentioned that there is a real trash problem but says nothing more? We are going to have a trillion panels in world soon so where are they going to be dumped? Not a very informative documentary.

  • Has Australia's Energy Minister heard about fracking?

  • I would at least hope that each (used) Solar Panel could undergo full testing (Isc and max. voltage) before these Solar Panels enter the Landfill decision. I believe that many of these so-called "scrap" Solar Panels will still function for very many years. There will be a high percentage of these "scrap" Solar Panels that will still show 90% + of their rated output. This is because many people purchased Solar Packages a few years ago, and then ripped them off their roof – to replace with an 'upgraded' higher output Solar System. The tested (used) Solar Panels (quick 1 minute test) could flow back into a market – where the poorer people of this country could at least have some cheaper form of Solar Power for their high energy bills – at an affordable price. Sadly, we live in a world where it is easy to throw away to landfill many things that still have a service life. A small local government site positioned right next door to this huge Solar Panel Recycle Plant could bring some work and some sanity in the area of Solar Panel Reclamation. Thanks to the ABC. I had no knowledge that these problems even existed – in the scrapping of average 600 Solar Panels every day.

  • ,………….and part 1 is ..where?

  • They didn’t go into the recycling of the solar panels with all their heavy metals that don’t break down and other carcinogenic elements in them.

  • F Z

    “The increasing
    disparity between the rich and the poor is a major destabilizing influence in
    the world. It produces or exacerbates regional and national conflicts,
    environmental degradation, crime and violence, and the increasing use of
    illicit drugs. These consequences of extreme poverty affect all individuals and
    nations. Increasingly we are becoming aware that we are all members of a single
    human family. In a family the suffering of any member is felt by all, and until
    that suffering is alleviated, no member of the family can be fully happy or at
    ease. Few are able to look at starvation and extreme poverty without feeling a
    sense of failure.”

    The Bahá’í
    approach to the problem of extreme poverty is based on the belief that economic
    problems can be solved only through the application of spiritual principles.
    This approach suggests that to adjust the economic relationships of society,
    man’s character must first be transformed. Until the actions of humankind
    promote justice above the satisfaction of greed and readjusts the world’s
    economies accordingly, the gap between the rich and the poor will continue to
    widen, and the dream of sustainable economic growth, peace, and prosperity must
    remain elusive. Sensitizing mankind to the vital role of spirituality in
    solving economic problems including the realization of universal equitable
    access to wealth and opportunity will, we are convinced, create a new impetus
    for change.

     A new economic order can be founded only on an
    unshakable conviction of the oneness of mankind. Discussions aimed at solving
    problems related to extreme poverty based on the premise that we are one human
    family rapidly expand beyond the current vocabulary of economics. They demand a
    wider context, one which anticipates the emergence of a global system of
    relationships resting on the principles of equity and justice.

    Although it will
    resemble the present system in many ways, the evolving economic system which
    Bahá’ís envision will have significant points of distinction.

    Let us take as
    an example the Bahá’í view of income distribution, which allows for differences
    but would eliminate both extreme wealth and extreme poverty. The accumulation
    of excessive fortunes by a small number of individuals, while the masses are in
    need, is, according to Bahá’í teachings, an iniquity and an injustice.
    Moderation should, therefore, be established by means of laws and regulations
    that would hinder the accumulation of excessive fortunes by a few individuals
    and provide for the essential needs of the masses.

    The Bahá’í
    writings anticipate the development of communities in which the well-being of
    every member is the concern of the community as a whole. The centre of such a
    community would include social service institutions which shall afford relief
    to the suffering, sustenance to the poor, shelter to the wayfarer, solace to
    the bereaved, and education to the ignorant.

    In the New World
    Order envisaged by Bahá’u’lláh, rights are inseparable from responsibilities. A
    fundamental purpose of life is to contribute to the advancement of
    civilization. Idleness and begging are unacceptable in a well-functioning
    society, while work performed in the spirit of service is elevated to the
    station of worship. Thus the right to work, the right to contribute to society,
    takes on a spiritual dimension, and the responsibility to be productive applies
    to everyone. This attitude toward work profoundly influences the Bahá’í
    approach to social and economic development. Communities are encouraged to
    identify their own needs and initiate their own projects, many of which focus
    on alleviating poverty. Such locally initiated projects often receive support
    from national or international Bahá’í institutions.

    The fostering of
    grassroots initiative is essential to the elimination of poverty; this concept
    has both moral and educational implications which demand profound study. In his
    report to the Sub-Commission on the Protection of Minorities, Mr. Eduardo
    Suesun Monroy pointed out that extreme poverty is often compounded by the
    deprivation of a constellation of rights guaranteed by the Declaration of Human
    Rights. Not only are the extremely poor in many countries deprived of their
    right to an adequate standard of living (article 25), and the right to choose
    one’s place of residence (article 13), but they are also often deprived of the
    right to work (article 23), the right to education (article 26), the right to
    social security (article 22), and the right to recourse in the courts (article
    10).

    The Bahá’í
    International Community welcomes the establishment, in 1992 by the 47th session
    of the General Assembly, of an International Day for the Elimination of
    Poverty, designated in resolution 47-196 as October 17. We also support the
    request of the Commission on Human Rights, expressed in resolution 1992/11,
    that the Sub-Commission study the question of human rights and extreme poverty
    and report to the Commission at its forty-ninth session. Mr. Leandro Despouy,
    Special Rapporteur on this question, can count on the full cooperation of the
    Bahá’í International Community as he conducts his study.”

            (Baha'i International Community, 1993
    Feb 12, Human Rights Extreme Poverty)

  • The Chinese have sold more crap stuff the the world that it's just disgusting. They should be responsible for all losses the the people of the world. BAN Chinese products NOW. I smell a BIG FAT RAT. Corporate America. World corporations. They are killing everything.

  • Solar is new form of source of energy for human kind. The initial teething problem has to be there. Think about first steam powered engine when it was trying to replace horse power

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